Friday, 28 September 2012

1500pts Lists some help please.



So I've got four 1500pt lists here with the major differences highlighted in yellow. I'd originally thought to take a Hive Tyrant but felt two Tervigons are more durable. I also feel I should definitely have the Defence Line because it looks cool as opposed to necessarily being a winning tool. I want to include the WQuad gun but given the FAQ feel it would be pointless. I've ended up with only one list with it in because most armies I've played have only had one flyer but if I face more without it I'll definitely be dead in the water with only cover saves to try and keep me alive. Anyway here are the four and my individual thoughts.

 
 
This is probably my most standard force and one I'm most familiar with. Ymgarls for deployment zone shenanigans. Hormagaunts as my meat shield but only 5 stealers which is a bit weak.

HQ
  Tyranid Prime with Lashwhip and Bonesword, Deathspitter, Synapse Creature,
  Tervigon with Catalyst, Dominion, Synapse Creature, Stinger Salvo, Crushing Claws
Elites
  2x Hive Guard(s)
  5x Ymgarl Genestealer(s)
  1x Zoanthrope(s)
Troops
  Tervigon with Catalyst, Dominion, Synapse Creature, Stinger Salvo, Crushing Claws
  10x Termagaunts with Devourer
  Mycetic Spore with Hardened Carapace, Lash Whip, Ripper tentacles,
  12x Hormagaunts
  3x Tyranid Warriors with Barbed Strangler, Deathspitter, Scything Talons,
  Broodlord with Adrenal Glands, Scything Talons ,
  5x Genestealers with Adrenal Glands,
Heavy Support
  Trygon
Fortifications
  Aegis Defence Line

 

Swapping out the Ymgarls for more durable brood of stealers, but losing on the in your face dangers. Only 11 Hormagaunts this time but I get the Quad Gun, if I can use it and alternatively I could add a 3rd Hive Guard to instantly fix the list if it wasn't acceptable.

HQ
  Tyranid Prime with Lashwhip and Bonesword, Deathspitter, Synapse Creature,
  Tervigon with Catalyst, Dominion, Synapse Creature, Stinger Salvo, Crushing Claws
Elites
  2x Hive Guard(s)
  1x Zoanthrope(s)
Troops
  Tervigon with Catalyst, Dominion, Synapse Creature, Stinger Salvo, Crushing Claws
  10x Termagaunts with Devourer
  Mycetic Spore with Hardened Carapace, Lash Whip, Ripper tentacles,
  11x Hormagaunts
  3x Tyranid Warriors with Barbed Strangler, Deathspitter, Scything Talons,
  Broodlord with Adrenal Glands, Scything Talons ,
  8x Genestealers with Adrenal Glands,
Heavy Support
  Trygon with
Fortifications
  Aegis Defence Line
  Quad gun

 

Given the success of the Doom in a recent match he still has the ability to inflict carnage but is he too much and suicidal? Back with the Ymgarls but Hormies and Stealers are as small a unit as they can be and possibly First Blood fodder!

HQ
  Tyranid Prime with Lashwhip and Bonesword, Deathspitter, Synapse Creature,
  Tervigon with Catalyst, Dominion, Synapse Creature, Stinger Salvo, Crushing Claws
Elites
  2x Hive Guard(s)
  5x Ymgarl Genestealer(s)
  The Doom of Malan’tai with Mycetic Spore with Hardened Carapace, Lash Whip, Ripper tentacles,
Troops
  Tervigon with Catalyst, Dominion, Synapse Creature, Stinger Salvo, Crushing Claws
  10x Termagaunts with Devourer
  10x Hormagaunts
  3x Tyranid Warriors with Barbed Strangler, Deathspitter, Scything Talons,
  Broodlord with Adrenal Glands, Scything Talons ,
  4x Genestealers with Adrenal Glands,
Heavy Support
  Trygon
Fortifications
  Aegis Defence Line

 

Just a list thrown in, reduced Stealers but with added Broodlord make them a little more durable and more Psychic powers to throw around.

HQ
  Tyranid Prime with Lashwhip and Bonesword, Deathspitter, Synapse Creature,
  Tervigon with Catalyst, Dominion, Synapse Creature, Stinger Salvo, Crushing Claws
Elites
2x Hive Guard(s)
1x Zoanthrope(s)
Troops
  Tervigon with Catalyst, Dominion, Synapse Creature, Stinger Salvo, Crushing Claws
  10x Termagaunts with Devourer
  Mycetic Spore with Hardened Carapace, Lash Whip, Ripper tentacles,
  12x Hormagaunts
  3x Tyranid Warriors with Barbed Strangler, Deathspitter, Scything Talons,
  Broodlord with Adrenal Glands, Scything Talons ,
  4x Genestealers with Adrenal Glands,
  Broodlord with Toxin Sacs,
  4x Genestealers with Toxin Sacs,
Heavy Support
  Trygon
Fortifications
  Aegis Defence Line


 

So there we go, your help is appreciated. I could always bin off the Hormagaunts altogether, they're never as effective as I wish them to be but they're useful in going forwards through cover and backed up by the Stealers could be effective in flanking. Ultimately It will have Hive Guard, Warriors, Tervigons and Trygons with Devgaunts and a pod but if anyone can play around with the remainder please do. I had thought about Regeneration on a Tervigon also or perhaps save a couple of points by switching to Scything Talons on one, given as that's how it's modelled. The Defence Line would be nice but I'm wondering if 50 point elsewhere may be better, I can still put it on my trays for the army and people can "aahh!" But I'm not sure if using it may risk whatever chances I have thanks to weak units. Thoughts appreciated.